_EP: 03

EP 3: Stafford is Going Mad Again

A surprising Allende ally emerges from the shadows of Washington, throwing Nixon into a fury. As the nefarious ties between ITT and the CIA are revealed, the Santiago Boys master tech geopolitics. With Allende on borrowed time, the military's allegiance hangs in the balance.

_Episode Notes

02 : 02 "who wrote a book"

See Feldstein, Mark. Poisoning the Press: Richard Nixon, Jack Anderson, and the Rise of Washington's Scandal Culture. United States, Farrar, Straus and Giroux, 2010.

03 : 04 "he writes cryptically"

This note is to be found in Beer, Stafford. Papers, Santiago, Jan 73 - still current. Stafford Beer collection, Box 63, Liverpool.

03 : 08 "snooping around"

The story of the strangers snooping on him appears in the early draft of the Chilean chapters of Beer, Stafford. Brain of the Firm. Stafford Beer collection, Box 88, Liverpool. It also appears on the audio tapes by Beer in the author’s possession. 

03 : 49 "here's a sample"

Telex found in Stafford Beer collection, Box 66, Liverpool.

05 : 28 "busy consulting, broadcasting"

An interesting example of Stafford Beer’s broadcasting is this documentary film by BBC, where he appears alongside the likes of Aldous Huxley, Kingsley Amis, and Raymond Williams: link.

07 : 02 "give him a copy"

Mentioned in Medina, Eden. Cybernetic Revolutionaries: Technology and Politics in Allende's Chile. United Kingdom, MIT Press, 2014, p. 98.

08 : 58 "to use computers and real-time data analysis"

See our interviews with Jonathan Rosenhead and Brian Hollocks. Stafford's own detailed account of his early work at United Steel appears in the oral interview with Rebecca Capey, in Evgeny Morozov's possession.

13 : 40 "become a sensation"

See Feldstein, Mark. Poisoning the Press: Richard Nixon, Jack Anderson, and the Rise of Washington's Scandal Culture. United States, Farrar, Straus and Giroux, 2010, p. 273.

15 : 48 "They have lawyers"

See Handke, Jonathan G. "Memorandum of Conversation. Subject: Meeting with Hal Hendrix, 11 May 1972." Available here

16 : 34 "feeling the heat"

For a discussion on the climate of fear among Chilean diplomats in the US, see Boorstein, Edward. Allende's Chile: An Inside View. United States, International Publishers, 1977, pp. 90-91.

17 : 00 "all they wanted"

The Chilean embassy break-in is discussed in the following sources: Davis, Nathaniel. The Last Two Years of Salvador Allende. United States, Cornell University Press, 1985, pp. 95-96; Wise, David. The American Police State: The Government Against the People. United States, Vintage Books, 1978, pp. 175 – 182; Landau, Saul, and Dinges, John. Assassination on Embassy Row. United Kingdom, Writers and Readers, 1981, pp. 50-51.

18 : 21 "dropped some hints"

Weiner, Tim. "In Tapes, Nixon Muses About Break-Ins at Foreign Embassies." The New York Times, 26 Feb. 1999, available here; the transcript of the actual conversation where Nixon muses on the subject can be found here.

19 : 44 "dependency theory, they call it"

A good primer on how heterodox Latin American economists thought about technology is Cardoso, Fernando Henrique. "The Originality of a Copy: CEPAL and the Idea of Development." CEPAL Review, 1 Dec. 1977, available here; a popular account of how modern technology breeds economic dependence is to be found in Galeano, Eduardo. Open veins of Latin America. United Kingdom, Monthly Review Press, 1997. Andre Gunder Frank’s essays, including those in Frank, Andre Gunder. Capitalism and Underdevelopment in Latin America. United Kingdom, Monthly Review Press, 1967, also refer to technology (and even cybernetics) as the new frontier of dependence. Likewise, the classic in the field - Cardoso, Fernando Henrique, and Enzo Faletto. Dependency and development in Latin America. Univ of California Press, 1979 – discusses technology in that vein.

19 : 50 "certain leftist circles"

An accessible overview of the distinctiveness of Latin American economic thought in that period is to be found in our interviews with Margarita Fajardo and William Robinson.

21 : 08 "a Volkswagen republic"

This is Eduardo Galeano citing Darcy Ribeiro. See Galeano, Eduardo. Open Veins of Latin America: Five Centuries of the Pillage of a Continent. Australia, Scribe Publications Pty Limited, 2009, p. 279.

21 : 46 "for this revolutionary idea"

A good account of these influences can be found in Lozoya López, Ivette. Intelectuales y revolución: Científicos sociales latinoamericanos en el MIR chileno (1965-1973). Chile, Ariadna Ediciones, 2021. Also see our interview with Gonzalo Cáceres.

22 : 20 "industrial management"

For a curious account of Fernando Flores’s thesis, see Skoknic, Francisca. "La Curiosa Tesis Con Que Fernando Flores Se Graduó De Ingeniero." CIPER Chile, Mar. 2011, link.

22 : 32 "INTEC's own in-house magazine"

An English copy is available in De Los Reyes, David Maulén. "Vi/Vi/Sec/Tion of Industrial Design. Gui Bonsiepe and the Formulation of the Interface Concept. Intec Chile 1972. Document of the Beginning of a Paradigm Shift in the Interaction Design Disciplines." AI & Society, vol. 37, no. 3, Jan. 2022, pp. 1115–29. link.

23 : 07 "your own technological base"

Gui Bonsiepe’s essays have recently been published in English, with several introductory essays by his former students and collaborators: Bonsiepe, Gui, and Penin, Lara. The Disobedience of Design: Gui Bonsiepe. United Kingdom, Bloomsbury Publishing, 2021. The theme of technological autonomy also shines through in the books written immediately after Chile: Bonsiepe, Gui. Design im Übergang zum Sozialismus: ein technisch-politischer Erfahrungsbericht aus dem Chile der Unidad Popular (1971-73). Germany, Red. Designtheorie, 1974; and Bonsiepe, Gui. Teoria e pratica del disegno industriale: elementi per una manualistica critica. Italy, Feltrinelli, 1983.

23 : 44 "one of his powerful speeches"

Address delivered by Mr. Salvador Allende Gossens, President of Chile, at the inaugural ceremony of UNCTAD, on 13 April 1972. In: "Third Session of the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD III)." UNCTAD, pp. 349-357. Accessible here.

24 : 14 "right to seek our solutions"

Translating and paraphrasing Allende’s words sourced in Amorós Quiles, Mario. Compañero Presidente: Salvador Allende, una vida por la democracia y el socialismo. Spain, Publicacions de la Universitat de València, 2011,p. 175.

25 : 02 "a call from the British Embassy"

Stafford recounts that story in the early draft of the Chilean chapters of Beer, Stafford. Brain of the Firm. Stafford Beer collection, Box 88, Liverpool. It also appears on the audio tapes by Beer in the author’s possession.

27 : 38 "writes to the team"

Letter appears in Beer, Stafford. "England Act". Stafford Beer collection, Box 63, Liverpool.

30 : 11 "biggest charlatan in the business"

Quoted in Agar, Jon. The Government Machine: A Revolutionary History of the Computer. MIT Press, 2003, p. 493.

30 : 24 "Stafford is Going Mad Again"

See Beer, Stafford. "Roger Tatham Eddison: An Appreciation." Journal of the Operational Research Society, vol. 51, no. 8, Palgrave Macmillan, Aug. 2000, pp. 1004–07. Available here.

32 : 18 "fix the civil service"

Beer recounts this in great detail in his oral interview with Rebecca Capey, on file with the author, p. 34.

32 : 34 "something of a dilemma here"

Beer, Stafford. "File Note." August 1, 1969. Stafford Beer collection, Box 6, Liverpool.

33 : 01 "can actually truly co-exist"

Beer in the Capey Interview, p. 35, on file with the author.

40 : 06 "shopkeepers feel like"

The New York Times covered it: Novitski, Joseph. "Chile’s Shopkeepers Challenge Allende." The New York Times, 13 Sept. 1972, link.

40 : 25 "dies of a heart attack"

The heart attack anecdote is recounted on p.12 of Casals, Marcelo. "The Insurrection of the Middle Class: Social Mobilization and Counterrevolution During the Popular Unity Government, Chile, 1970–1973." Journal of Social History, vol. 54, no. 3, Oxford UP, Nov. 2019, pp. 944–69. link.

46 : 07 "some radical leftist from Argentina"

This story is well-covered in Harmer, Tanya. Beatriz Allende: A Revolutionary Life in Cold War Latin America. United States, University of North Carolina Press, 2020; and Marchesi, Aldo. Latin America's Radical Left: Rebellion and Cold War in the Global 1960s. United Kingdom, Cambridge University Press, 2018. Also see our interview with Patricia Espejo

48 : 06 "he notes that the ambassador an idiot"

"Memorandum From William J. Jorden of the National Security Council Staff to the President’s Assistant for National Security Affairs (Kissinger)." United States, National Security Council, Washington, September 19, 1972. Available here.

48 : 17 "another related coup-plotting operation"

"Central Intelligence Agency Intelligence Information Cable." United States, Central Intelligence Agency, Washington, August 29, 1972. Available here.

49 : 19 "as he recounts later on"

This description appears in the early draft of the Chilean chapters of Brain of the Firm, available in Beer, Stafford. Brain of the Firm. Stafford Beer collection, Box 88, Liverpool. It also appears on the audio tapes by Beer in the author’s possession.

50 : 47 "a memo to the whole team"

"5 Principles for the People": Beer, Stafford. Brain of the Firm: The Managerial Cybernetics of Organization. United Kingdom, Wiley, 1981, pp. 291-305.

53 : 55 "A secret document from the CIA"

See "Central Intelligence Agency Intelligence Information Cable." United States, Central Intelligence Agency, Washington, September 14, 1972, available here.

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